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icon6.gif  Library director sues Madison County deputies [message #2649] Tue, 08 December 2009 23:54 Go to next message
  Piasa  UNITED STATES
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Library director sues deputies
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Sounds like a screwy situation which is nothing less than what I would expect in Madison County.
Four points I would like to make:

1. From everything I know, Sheriff Robert Hertz should either resign as Sheriff or the citizens of Madison County should vote him out of office! (It is quite obvious from my viewpoint that Hertz along with the rest of the Madison County law Enforcement community, is either incapable of supervising deputies, or are simply incompetent to do so!) To the best of my recollection Misfeasance, Malfeasance, and or Nonfeasance by a publicly elected or appointed official is a Felony in Illinois, and based on my own experiences and the information contained in the article those terms aptly fit the Madison County Sheriffs Offices (un-official) Standard Operating Procedures (you might call it a pattern and practice of conduct).

2. Although the article does not specify the age of the child or any of the terms of the “joint custody order” or many other pertinent details I’m pretty sure that none of the Deputies involved were bar certified attorneys or judges capable of interpreting the “joint custody order” or of enforcing its terms as they interpreted them, without some form of due process yet apparently the Deputies did just that, 1st by asking Owens to take the child to begin with (which was mentioned more specifically in a different article ( SOURCE ) and then later going to Owens’s private residence (demanding entry, and blind obedience from Owens while acting under color and threat of law).

3. I would guess that the Plaintiff Owens and his family will spend about $10,000 - $15,000 in legal fees and a year or more of their time before their lawsuit is resolved. In the meantime it is likely that the origins of this incident will have an adverse effect on the child and her parent’s continued parental relationship.

4. From the article:

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the suit names as defendants two other officers whose names Owen said he does not know.
Hertz acknowledged the fact that Owen was acquitted but said that does not necessarily mean the library director is entirely in the right.
"It seems we have a disagreement, but that's what the civil courts are for," Hertz said.


Perhaps Hertz being the high Sheriff for Madison County and all, should look up the definition of acquitted so he can comprehend it better, he can find the Merriam Webster definition for “ACQUITTED “ online. Alternatively my Oran’s Dictionary of the law defines Acquittal as “A formal legal determination that a person who has been charged with a crime is innocent ”.

Therefore the Sheriffs claim “that does not necessarily mean the library director is entirely in the right” falls on its face! The fact that Owens was found innocent after being accused and prosecuted is Prima facie evidence that the Deputies were in the wrong!

Or as Sheriff Hertz might phrase it (if he were honest with himself and the citizens he serves) that does not necessarily mean the deputy was entirely in the right!

Ultimately the question is how often do things like this occur in Madison County, and why is it ignored to the point that a private citizen must sue to enforce their absolute right to "Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" or "to equal treatment and protection under the law".

[Updated on: Sat, 09 January 2010 08:27]


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Re: Library director sues Madison County deputies [message #2651 is a reply to message #2649] Wed, 09 December 2009 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  teardrop  is currently offline teardrop  UNITED STATES
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Most people have the same problem that I do....or did. (I am not as trusting as I once was)

They were raised to respect their ELDERS and AUTHORITY FIGURES. That would so happen to include police officers.

This premise would explain the Chiefs comment:

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Hertz acknowledged the fact that Owen was acquitted but said that does not necessarily mean the library director is entirely in the right. "It seems we have a disagreement, but that's what the civil courts are for," Hertz said.


He is hoping that what people take away from this incident is his comment being CORRECT because he is a person they should respect and that it is his job....

People assume that since it is his JOB ...that he KNOWS these things...when in all reality....

HE DOESN"T

As long as we have unqualified people abusing their Authority to intimidate the public...this problem will continue...and of course....get even worse.

Power corrupts

Absolute power corrupts absolutely



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icon6.gif  Re: Library director sues Madison County deputies [message #2652 is a reply to message #2651] Wed, 09 December 2009 14:42 Go to previous message
  Piasa  UNITED STATES
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teardrop wrote on Wed, 09 December 2009 12:37

He is hoping that what people take away from this incident is his comment being CORRECT because he is a person they should respect and that it is his job....

People assume that since it is his JOB ...that he KNOWS these things...when in all reality....

HE DOESN"T

As long as we have unqualified people abusing their Authority to intimidate the public...this problem will continue...and of course....get even worse.

Power corrupts

Absolute power corrupts absolutely



Like you I lost any trust I had in what is laughingly called "Police Integrity" a long, long time ago, well I didn't actually lose it since they took it away from me by their own actions and misconduct.

And I guess that is what galls me the most about this article, because I have been there. I feel sorry for Owens and I believe that he is and was totally innocent particularly since he was acquitted.

Bottom line is there are a whole lot of stories such as this around this area and if the citizens ever get off their asses and start demanding honest law Enforcement not asking for it but demanding it they might actually accomplish something.


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